Saturday, July 19, 2008

The Noonan Conundrum

I get The Golf Channel. That is to say the cable package I have includes The Golf Channel.
I have never watched it until today, wasn’t even aware it was on my TV.

Here is a golf question. I don’t play, so I am asking for some clarification from golfers.

Ready?

There are two teams of two players playing a round and with all four players on the 18th green; the score is tied. Team A’s first player putts out in two and Team A’s second player sinks his first putt. Team B’s first player putts out in two and Team B’s second player sinks his first putt.

The match is still even, right? If the answer is yes, and I can’t see how it wouldn’t be, will someone please explain the end of the movie Caddyshack?

Judge Smails and Doctor Beeper are tied with Ty Webb and Danny Noonan. They are all on the green when Lou announces the match is even. The Doctor two-putts. The Judge sinks his shot with "Ole Billy Barou." Ty two-putts, then says to Danny “if you miss it, we lose.”

This is, of course, correct. But if he makes it, they would only be tied. Once Ty two-putts there was no way they could win, only tie, Ty. Forget explosions, forget gophers. The end of the movie is wrong.
Or maybe it’s me. Somebody help me with this.

And another thing, can someone explain to me why on the Saturday morning of the British Open, The Golf Channel was showing Caddyshack two times, back-to-back?

It is of course easier to understand why I watched it both times.

Still, once this is settled, I need to start working on Roy Hobbs walk off homer in Chicago.

3 comments:

B and T Crowd said...

There are two issues at hand on the final green. How did the good guys win and should Danny's putt have counted.

http://proxy.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/020905 explains the first part:

The match was tied going into the 18th hole. Dr. Beeper and Ty both missed their putts, settling for pars. The Judge pulled out Billy Baroo and made his birdie. So Danny needed to make his putt to halve the hole (and salvage a tie for the match) ... if he missed it, his team lost the match.

As Danny stood over his putt, Al Czervik made his "Double or nothing that he makes it" offer to Judge Smails, which the Judge accepted. In other words, the Judge gave up his "If he makes it, we tie ... if he misses, we win" position for a chance to double his winnings if Danny missed. When Danny made the putt, the Judge suddenly had to pay twice the initial wager. In retrospect, it was a savvy gamble by Al -- who had nothing to lose but more money -- and a colossally stupid move by the Judge.


As far as Danny's putt counting:
(http://espn.go.com/page2/s/closer/020726.html)

In Reel Life: In the film's final scene, Danny putts for $80,000. He just misses -- the ball is maybe an inch from the cup. Then comes Carl's massive explosion. The earth rumbles, and after what seems like a long time, the ball falls into the cup.

In Real Life: Danny's ball comes to a stop for 12 seconds before the first explosion goes off, and it takes 54 seconds for the series of explosions to send the ball into the cup. According to Jeff Hall of the USGA, "In all likelihood, (rule) 16-2 kicks in." If so, Danny could be due a penalty stroke, and his side loses. But Lou, the caddy master, has been agreed upon as the referee, and his ruling is accepted by both sides. So the good guys do win.

Mr. Moose said...

Dear b and t,

Your second point I am in totally agreement with. Lou is the final word on Danny's putt.

As for you first point and I quote: "Double or nothing that he makes it" offer to Judge Smails, which the Judge accepted.In other words, the Judge gave up his "If he makes it, we tie ... if he misses, we win" position"

How can we make that leap. Why would the Judge cancel the bet after Ty misses. He is almost assured of at least a push which it seems would be as good as a win.

B and T Crowd said...

That's just it... the Judge Smalls made an awful move. He shouldn't have canceled the original bet.